This week’s lesson was sort of a continuation of the last one. It was about “perspectives on the problem of evil”. This was just more philosophy, rooted around the age-old question of: If there is a God and He is a good God, why does He still allow evil and suffering to exist? or, If evil exists, God cannot be good, because a good God would eliminate evil and suffering.
Personally, I have never spent much time wondering about this. We know that the Fall corrupted our world and introduced sin & death to mankind. Suffering is part of that; and as to why God would allow it, I think that’s just part of free will. Adam & Eve had free will to choose in the Garden of Eden, but they made the wrong choice, and therefore the perfection of the Garden was marred and mankind was doomed to suffer in one way or another (the man having to do painful toil to get the land to yield fruit, and the woman to suffer great pains in childbearing – which apparently includes PMS, monthly period cramps, wild peri-menopausal symptoms and crazy menopausal symptoms as well. I have a bone to pick with God: He never said anything about all this other stuff! But I digress).
So it’s not that God doesn’t want to stop suffering, but it’s part of the ‘curse’ that came with the Fall, so it couldn’t be removed because once Pandora’s Box has been opened, you can’t stuff all those things back inside it once again. You can’t go back to the way things once were. That’s why we have the Redemption story and the sacrifice of Jesus.
Anyway, to get back to the lesson, apparently there are two ways of dealing with the problem of evil, one of which is ‘theodicy’ – trying to explain why an all-powerful, good God would permit evil to exist, or in other words, trying to vindicate God from accusations that He hasn’t eradicated suffering because He doesn’t care that people are suffering; the second is a ‘defense’ which argues that there’s no problem with a scenario where God and evil co-exist, that it’s logical for them to do so – therefore, the presence of evil doesn’t automatically negate the presence of a powerful and good God.
But, if we ask, How can evil exist if God is all-good and all-powerful?, first we need to know what ‘evil’ means. So then the class got a few interpretations of ‘evil’, from Augustine, Irenaeus, Reformed movement, and Heiser.
Augustine’s view is that evil is a defect or lack. Thus, everything that God creates is good (because He’s a good God) but then evil came in and caused a ‘defect’ – thus we have ‘natural evils’ where because we live in a “defective” world, there are natural disasters, diseases, and other things not directly caused by human actions; but we also have ‘moral evils’ which result from human choices and misuse of free will, such as when a person commits a crime. So the idea here is that God isn’t behind evil, it’s humans making wrong choices that lead to evil.
Irenaeus’ view is that evil and suffering are permitted because they aid in moral and spiritual development; after all, “suffering produces perseverance; perseverance, character; and character, hope” (Rom 5:2-4). To Irenaeus, suffering contributes to sanctification.
The Reformed view comes from Calvin’s theology (::sigh::) whereby, if God is absolutely sovereign and has determined all that will happen, then evil exists within His plan and is ordained for divine purposes – but moral evil still arises from human choices and is not God’s fault. Compatibilism and all that (see week 6’s reflection).
Finally, Heiser’s view opposes Calvin’s in the sense that Heiser believed God does foreknow all things, but that doesn’t mean that those things are predestined; God can know all possible outcomes without ordaining them. The lecturer used the example of 1 Sam 23:9-13 where David asked God whether Saul would come to the city where David was, and God said yes. And then David asked whether the citizens would surrender David to Saul, and God said yes again. So David, being smart, left the city, and those incidents did not occur. The argument is that God has foreknowledge of what could occur, like, “If A happens, B will happen” but it is not predestined that either A or B will happen. Humans still have free will to decide, so one can decide not to do A after all, and then B will also not take place. In this way, free will (leading to possible evil) and divine omniscience can coexist, so God again allows humans to make the choices that may lead to evil.
I like Heiser’s explanation and Augustine’s view; I think that Irenaeus’ idea about God allowing suffering in order to help us to mature and grow spiritually was probably a ‘by the way’ thing, like in Rom 8:28-29 – in all things God works for the good of those who love Him and have been called according to His purpose, because He wants us to be conformed to the likeness of His Son. Sin and suffering have entered the world, so He had to redeem this somehow as He is the Redeemer, and I guess He therefore decided, why not make use of it? lol
After that, we got into “the logical problem of evil” based on J. L. Mackie’s philosophical thought experiment, and Plantinga’s response. I don’t want to get into this too much, because it is too convoluted. It involves propositions which are challenged and then re-formulated. Like, it takes a statement such as, “There are no limits to what an omnipotent being can do” (thus God would have the power to do anything), then proceeds to challenge the statement: Can God do the logically impossible? Like create a square circle? If He can’t, is this a limitation on God’s part? Then maybe the statement should be amended with a qualification: “There are no non-logical limits to what an omnipotent being can do.”
So, like, since we say that God is good and therefore, we think that He should eliminate evil or suffering because He is good, that means we believe that a good being would always eliminate evil as far as it can. But let’s say that eliminating this evil would bring about a greater evil, or it would somehow end up eliminating a good as a side effect – a good that outweighs that evil. Then would eliminating the original evil still be the right thing for a good being to do? So maybe we shouldn’t assume that a good God ought to remove all evil for the sake of removing it. Maybe some evils can’t be removed without removing certain goods because life is rarely black and white, and people aren’t all bad either. Like a thief and swindler who is a caring father to his children.
Likewise, maybe God, being good, values free will – because He is good and therefore doesn’t want to force every being to toe His line. So in His eyes, freedom is of “greater value” than ensuring zero evil by forcing people to follow Him like robots, therefore it’s worth the risk of the possible evil that may arise if/when humans misuse this freedom. And that’s how we conclude that the existence of evil is logically compatible with a good, omnipotent God.
The thought process is really logical and relies heavily on reasoning, so it was easy to follow, and didn’t feel like one was trying to turn one’s brains into a pretzel to defend the indefensible (like Calvin’s determinisim and compatibilism). But still, it’s … so much in your head. It’s very intellectual. Like you’re living in your own head, you know?
I get that all of this is important for apologetics because the problem of evil and suffering is a big one that trips up a lot of non-Christians… but eh. I can do this kind of thinking & reasoning, but I don’t like it because I feel that it’s unhealthy to be too much in my own head. You get too removed from the real world, I think.
The average person who is upset about the problem of suffering is usually upset because either they themselves or someone they care about has experienced great suffering. These kinds of thought experiments aren’t going to help them, neither will they convince them. You cannot argue a person into the Kingdom of God. People who want to argue are people who are already entrenched and firm in their belief; their mind is made up, they are not seeking to be convinced otherwise. They just want to prove they are right.
Which means that, in the end, this kind of philosophical thinking & reasoning is mostly just for your own intellectual satisfaction. You want to understand, so you go reason it out. But in understanding, I don’t know if anything really changes. Sure, now I understand – in my head – how God and evil can co-exist and why it is perhaps not logical to expect a good God to remove all evil & suffering from the world purely due to the fact that He is good and should not be able to tolerate evil. But if I were wounded in this area (like, if I or a loved one had suffered greatly and I was upset with God as a result), I don’t think that understanding this intellectually would change how I felt. Feelings are rarely affected by logic.
So, I don’t really know what to do with this information. Yay, we reconciled the issue of trusting a good God who allows evil to be present in this world, because we now know (or think we know) that He values human freedom… even though He was aware that humans would misuse this freedom. Uh… ok, that’s great, but so what? I am reassured that I’m not a robot being manipulated like a pawn on a chessboard, but apart from that, I don’t see much practical value in this information…